Tactics Skill Allocation Advice VI

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I think I will go the MB route. But I am sure that from now on that beastman will be throwing lots of pushes. It always happens with I give someone MB...
 

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Well the 3 I was thinking about were in order of preference Guard, 2 Heads, and Horns so at least I was thinking in the right direction.
I think after the advice I'll go 2 Heads.
 

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Not a big fan of Horns on Gutter Runners unless they have +ST already. Horns costs 30k TV and only makes them ST3, While Dauntless costs 20k and works on ST4 or better ball carriers. Dauntless has a chance of working in situatiosn where horns would give you nothing. You still need an assist to make it a 2d agains tmost ball carriers. And it only works on a blitz while dauntless can work standing still.

Big Hand I'd consider over it for retrievals, but you need yourself a sacker first to knock the ball free for a retrieval specialist to be worth anything.
 

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Not a big fan of Horns on Gutter Runners unless they have +ST already. Horns costs 30k TV and only makes them ST3, While Dauntless costs 20k and works on ST4 or better ball carriers. Dauntless has a chance of working in situatiosn where horns would give you nothing. You still need an assist to make it a 2d agains tmost ball carriers. And it only works on a blitz while dauntless can work standing still.

Big Hand I'd consider over it for retrievals, but you need yourself a sacker first to knock the ball free for a retrieval specialist to be worth anything.

I always regretted putting Horns on one of my gutters. Given that you will not roll double every time, two heads + dauntless is much better than horns + anything for sacking.
 

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I agree completely. Two heads or guard.
 

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My OCC2 Skaven team had a wrestle linerat roll doubles.

I have a kick linerat and another wrestle linerat. I have a rookie SV as well as a MB,claw,PO SV. I also have a block/accurate thrower and two wrestle and two block gutters.

I'm torn between guard (but he already has wrestle), dodge, ignore the double and get fend, or just fire the guy. I don't normally have the problem of linerat second skills let alone a double!
 

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Having no guard is actually kind of annoying against high strength teams and when you want to set up a one turner so I would take guard even though he has wrestle (not such a big deal imo). If he survives you can take mb first on the rookie SV which should help his development a bit and if he doesn't then shed no tears and take guard on that SV.
 

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My BC2 Wood Elf team has a Wardancer level up and I can't decide what to get.

Tree: rookie (my grab, +MA just died to a clawpomber o_O )
WD1: blodge, sidestep, tackle, mighty blow - normal roll
WD2: blodge, sidestep, tackle, strip ball
Catcher1: wrodge, tackle, sidestep, +ST (my wardancer-lite)
Catcher2: blodge, sidestep, diving tackle
Catcher3: blodge, sidestep
Thrower1: +MA, accurate, safe throw
Thrower2: leader, block

I also have a couple of blodge linos and a dirty player. Suggestions? I'm considering a second strip ball, jump up, frenzy, fend, dauntless. Will also consider other options.
 

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My BC2 Wood Elf team has a Wardancer level up and I can't decide what to get.

Tree: rookie (my grab, +MA just died to a clawpomber o_O )
WD1: blodge, sidestep, tackle, mighty blow - normal roll
WD2: blodge, sidestep, tackle, strip ball
Catcher1: wrodge, tackle, sidestep, +ST (my wardancer-lite)
Catcher2: blodge, sidestep, diving tackle
Catcher3: blodge, sidestep
Thrower1: +MA, accurate, safe throw
Thrower2: leader, block

I also have a couple of blodge linos and a dirty player. Suggestions? I'm considering a second strip ball, jump up, frenzy, fend, dauntless. Will also consider other options.

I would be tempted by Frenzy given the mighty blow. But in this case you have to play him more like a Storm Vermin than like a wardancer, i.e. leave the sack duties to WD2 and Catcher1.

2 throwers and 3 catchers aren't too many? Are you able to protect them all?
 

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I'd probably go for dauntless but jump up is also good.
Wrestle is also an option but better on the SB one.
 

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I've not played woodies, but generally I'd say dauntless and fend are under-rated skills. Given he's got MB dauntless would be pretty tempting for me.
 

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My UKBBL lizards have another level up, this time it's a skink question.

ST3, Sidestep skink has rolled 6+4.
Take the +MA?
Normal choices would probably have been DT or jump up.

I only have one other surviving skink with a skill and he just has SS.
 

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I would be tempted by Frenzy given the mighty blow. But in this case you have to play him more like a Storm Vermin than like a wardancer, i.e. leave the sack duties to WD2 and Catcher1.

2 throwers and 3 catchers aren't too many? Are you able to protect them all?
I do leave the sacking to the stripper and wrestle catcher. He's more my muscle. One thrower is offense-only, the other is a leader that I field on defense and have considered sacking now that I have 3RR. You can't really ever protect everyone, that shouldn't stop you from taking positionals. And they are invaluable on offense, especially now that both catchers are blodgesteppers.
 

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I'd probably go for dauntless but jump up is also good.
Wrestle is also an option but better on the SB one.
Dauntless it is. To be honest, I don't think I've ever actually taken it on a player. We'll see how it goes.
 

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Dauntless is an amazing skill to have on a primary blitzer if all you've got is ST 3 on the team.
 

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My Tabletop Necromantic team has 3 skills pending.

My team: http://ordobowl.com/index.php?section=objhandler&type=1&obj=2&obj_id=67

This is a persistent league, though there is a chance we may switch to the BB2016 re-buy rules at some point; we would play at least 1 more full season (~8 games) before that happens.

My last regular season game is against my nemesis, the other Necro team in the league: http://ordobowl.com/index.php?section=objhandler&type=1&obj=2&obj_id=59

There is a pretty good chance that game will be for the 4th and last play-off spot, but he has a tough match before that so he could potentially be eliminated before we play. There is also a chance that I could clinch the playoff spot before that match if another match goes the right way. The other playoff teams will be Lizardmen, Dark Elves and Pro Elves.

AG4/Block Wolf rolled a normal and will take Dodge. I can't think of anything that would change that.

Other Wolf (Block) rolled a normal as well. This is also 95% Dodge, though Tackle is tempting considering future match-ups. Side Step before Dodge is a thought but I can't see myself doing that.

The Level 2 Wight rolled a 6+5. This is the tough one. Normally I would take the +AG here but I am not sure this time. The TV isn't a huge issue to me; it isn't a concern for this season at all though the potential re-buy thing scares me a bit since I already have a Dodge Wight and a +AG Wolf but that will be a very minor factor in the decision if it factors at all. Guard is always really good on Necro Wights and I only have 2 Guard atm (Wight and Golem). Tackle and Mighty Blow (Piling On takes a Team RR as per the BB2016 rules) are other considerations considering potential future opponents.

What you think?
 

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If you read the previous post I made ignore it! I would want some tackle though given potential play off opponents.
 
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