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BB Manager is permanently down

Discussion in 'Blood Bowl 1' started by Steele, Feb 15, 2016.

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  1. Steele

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    It's with a heavy heart I bring you this bit of news:

    BB Manager will no longer be available.

    SuperJC has informed me that his host has nuked the DB and app, and also the FTP server that stored the DB backup, losing app. 300.000 matches in the process. I have no further details beyond these.

    Many of us have used BB Manager for years, and we know the loss of the app will be a blow to leagues across the world.

    Please join me in thanking SuperJC for the use of his free app. It had a good run, and I'm sure it will be remembered fondly.

    Steele out.
     
  2. Jav

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    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
     
  3. Nikolai II

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    Ohh no good, so who will be able to do app like that now then?
     
  5. mamutas

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    I'd imagine that format in game recording has changed from BB1 to BB2, and it all depends on the extent of the changes. However, it should be doable to adopt BB2StatsGrabber to use the old game record format and analyze them the same way it does BB2 games.

    Shame about BBM. People just don't care. How could they nuke it? There has to be back ups, it is normal business practice to do the back ups, so with some efforts they could be restored.
     
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    WTF, I wish they'd said something. We could have copied it off and found a place to store it.
     
  7. Lord Jair

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    Just wow. What a bunch of cretins... #sadface!

    And who was his host? Just so I know to recommend anyone but them...
     
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    Quite a loss, the times they are a'changin'.
     
  9. NieA7

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    That's a real pity. Many thanks to SuperJC for all the years of use.
     
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    I also want to thank SuperJC for all the years and effort he has put into providing Cyanide based Blood Bowl with this wonderful tool!
     
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    Thanks to SJC for everything he's done. BBM provided years of excellent service.

    Do we know why the host made this decision? I'm sure a little nudging would have seen many of us happily donate money for something we've used for years.
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2016
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    I imagine if the NAF could help with this we would.
     
  13. TheGutterRunner

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    Hi there,

    I have been working on a BBManager-like tool for 6-8 months now, initially to overcome some of its shortcoming but now it has added impetus as a replacement.

    It is still in development but it does the simple things really well and is having more features added. Things it can do at the moment include logging matches, tables, team stats, team and player progression, overall charts, charts per competition, awards for outstanding players. There is some dice analysis in there though that is very much in beta and has some known issues.

    Our gaming group has been happily using it for a while now but I would value another group who would be happy to use it in its current state, whilst also beta-testing it. Preferably someone who is just running a simple "play each other once" league but I would consider more complicated setups. If you're interested let me know & we can work something out.
     
  14. mamutas

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    Hi @TheGutterRunner

    Interesting post and definitely not a simple task. My cheers for your efforts working on that.

    Can we get more info? How does the system work? Is that similar to BBM when you submit match to the server and it analyzes it? Web based? BB1 or BB2? Could you give us some specs here?
     
  15. Nikolai II

    Nikolai II Super Moderator Moderator

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    Bbtactics.com does regularly run small simple leagues, so shouldn't be hard to find some takers, as long as you don't look like a virusmonger. :p
     
  16. TheGutterRunner

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    It's similar to the systems found at UKBBL or the old world league. You go to the website, upload the relevant files and the database deals with the rest. It's BB1 only at the moment but has been constructed in such a way that making it work for BB2 is a possibility in the future. Our group only plays BB1 at the moment.

    I have lots of experience with databases so I know what I'm doing :)
     
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  17. TravelScrabble

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    Sounds awesome, I know the Big Crunch is looking for a BBM replacement, maybe send cjblackburn a pm
     
  18. mamutas

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    If it is BB1, then I'll pass, but certainly BB1 admins (@cjblackburn and @Znarx) may found it interesting.
     
  19. TheGutterRunner

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    Thanks all, I have been in contact with cjblackburn.

    I'm wondering if there is even a need to develop this for BB2, given there seems to already be a tool for that?
     
  20. Nikolai II

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    Like BBmanager showed - a tool that relies on someone else keeping a program and database running can fail without warning at any time. So solutions "closer to home" can be good. :)