From what I remember of pidpad's diagram, top 3 teams get promoted and bottom 3 teams get demoted, assuming a static environment. In practice, I think all it takes is one or two re-rollers in tier 4 and 4th place teams will go up. Also, from everything I've been told, there are enough re-rollers and people sitting out that no one in tier 4 and lower ever gets demoted - demotion is primarily a concern in Tier 1 (where you either win, come in second, or go away), and also in Tier 2. I think Tier 3 teams also have a reasonable chance of getting demoted, but usually only from the bottom 2 spots. So if I were making a bet, I would bet you and your Orcs are going to Tier 4 for Season 21. As a side note - good catch on the endzone surf... In the heat of the moment I failed to consider that pushing my wolf into the endzone with the ball would result in a TD before you can try to bounce him into the crowd. Still, had I not tired a dodge, you would have had 6 block dice (2d block x2, RR if needed) to roll a 5+ (you had Tackle, so POW! was sufficient despite Blodge). I am pretty sure that wolf was going down if I left it standing - but good catch! I really should pay more attention to details .