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Best Linemen

Discussion in 'General Blood Bowl News and Discussion' started by Charging Pun, May 14, 2010.

  1. Charging Pun

    Charging Pun New Member

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    Let's face it. Blood Bowl, like football, is a game about the linemen. Sure the stars on the pitch are the guys handling the ball, or blitzing the ball carrier. But, where would those guys be without the linemen on thier team?

    When you need to blitz the other guy's best ball carrier and you need an assist, who do you call?
    When you need to get a pass off in the last turn of the game and you need protection, who do you call?
    When that star player goes down with injury and is forced to miss a game, who steps in to fill his shoes?

    The LINEMAN, that's who!

    Share your linemen related stories, and let's sing for the unsung heroes of the pitch!


    What player (race and position) makes the best linemen?
    What skill combos do you like on your linemen?
    Do you have a favourite lineman story?
     
  2. Coach

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    This is a question where you really need to define the Lineman's role, as they all do different things depending on their team.

    Their uses and effectiveness also vary depending how well developed they are.
     
  3. Charging Pun

    Charging Pun New Member

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    Actually it was meant to be a generic question. One that could spark debate as each coach sounds off to defend their favourite team.

    I just wanted to hear about other coaches experiences with linemen.
     
  4. Coach

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    That is exactly what my point was!

    From a pure flexibility stand point perhaps the Dark and High Elf Linemen are the best. They aren't at a disadvantage at speed, strength or armour and have high agility to move around and handle the ball if needed.

    Dwarf Linemen are also very good, Block, Tackle, high armour and access to strength skills. Can tie up anyone and even take on most other players 1 on 1 with no extra skills needed.

    The cheap players are great cause they are cheap and disposable, can tie up more expensive players for a while, some of them are fairly mobile and can handle the ball (maybe needing the help with rerolls). There are quite a lot of linemen in the 40/50k range each with their own advantages and disadvantages compared to the others.

    Perhaps those Linemen that cost more than that aren't really considered as such, their higher cost marks them out as perhaps a more numerous positional player and so some may have a case to eliminate them as fair discussion on this topic.

    With so many of the 50k or less options, I'll leave them all out in the open for any coach to make a case for specific ones to go ahead and jump on in the discussion!
     
  5. drester

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    i think that hobgoblins are work horses of the chaos dwarf teams. although the los duty is given to the dwarfs they still need to get stuck in for giving assists etc. while giving the dwarfs a 'leg-up' :D beating the snot out of the opposition they also have to do all ball handling with a massive banner over their heads saying 'soft target'.

    as for builds just get sure hands and then anything that will help keep them on their feet!

    no great stories with hobgobs really although one game i had a hobgob gaurding the wing and for about 3 turns in a row my opponent was rolling skulls trying to take him out! they're tougher than you think :cool:

    nice thread cp, cheers
     
  6. Ancre

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    My hobgoblins are the ones who never gets any fame for themselves.

    My chaos dwarfs block and do the fighting, one of my bull centaur carry the ball and the other blitz, and the hobgoblins are walking tackle zones, giving assist or cancelling opponent's assists, forming a screen or a cage, and generally running around to where they're needed (in a team that walks at a dwarf pace, hobgoblins' MA of 6 makes them very mobile players).

    As a result they never do anything extraordinary since they rarely make me roll dice, and the skill they have are skills useful for the team (like kick or dp) since they skill easily but they're the ones needing them the less.

    They're very useful, but it's the bullcentaurs who gets all the glory ! Poor hobgobs, life's hard when you're a chaos dwarf's slave forced to play blood bowl :D But with lrb6 being implemented on Fumbbl soon, maybe one of them will have his moment of glory, becoming a back-up blitzer with wrestle, tackle and diving tackle on a double ! They can still hope ...
     
  7. Ian

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    I'll just quote what I've posted elsewhere about Odin, King of Zombies.

    And he's still awaiting that second skill too. Though since I raised him for my own he's regenerated from death twice.
     
  8. Metalsvinet

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    Speaking of hobgoblins, they can be dangerous too. In a game in my league: orcs vs chaos dwarves, the orc coach decided to one dice blitz a lone hobbo with his star blitzer (early league) with mighty blow and guard rolling skull, reroll skull, cas, death, apo, death.
     
  9. sunnyside

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    When I think of actual linemen I think of G access only types. Elves and Dwarves really have what would be a positional on any other team as their "linemen" to balance not having access to S4 or S5 players.


    As a Norse player, I love my linemen early on. They really are an exceptional value as rookies. A team of 14-15 linemen and five-six re-rolls wouldn't be bad at all for a one shot 100TR game if they played very aggressively and dropped more boots than a parachute battalion.

    Sadly in the long run they lose their sparkle as everyone else picks up block on the linemen they field and phases the others out for more positionals.

    I find they skill up readily enough as they are quite capable of blitzing a ball carrier, recovering the ball, and running it downfield. But unless they roll doubles adding skills to them always feels like TR bloat beyond maybe kick and a DP or two.
     
  10. Coach

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    Zombies are a good shout, cheap, AV8 and Regeneration means they tend to be around for a while. You can also get free ones too making them even cheaper.
     
  11. Charging Pun

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    Let me tell you about Gork. He plays on my orc team, The Green Wall. His role is best described as: the 11th guy on the pitch. The other 10 are (barring injuries): 4 blitzers, 4 black orcs, 1 troll and 1 thrower. It is frequently his job to stay back and play a safety role. A role he has become quite good at with Block, Tackle and Strip Ball. The best play he ever made was this:

    It was my turn 8 (I recieved to start the game) in the first half against a chaos team, I was up 1-0. They had a beastman in scoring position with the ball. Gork was in the dirt next to a chaos warrior 3 squares away, and the next closest player was my thrower who would have to GFI twice just to mark him. So, with no rerolls left, this is what I did. I moved my thrower in to assist (whew). Blitzing with Gork, I dodged away from the warrior, then GFI to move the third square, and GFI again for the blitz. The result was not only a knockdown, but a casualty! With the beastman carted off the field, there was no one left close enough to score. It would turn out to be the closest they would get to my endzone all game long.
     
  12. coachman

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    I have an absolute beast of a lineman, Beth, on my Intervention Dark elf team.

    His first skill was +1 agility, this lead to him to spending his early career as a makeshift thrower at the back of the field.

    His next skill was leap which shifted his focus to a reciever where he hogged more than his fair share of ssp. Next he got wrestle leaving no ball carrier safe.

    He just picked up dodge making him the highest level elf on my team and there is no stopping him on offence or defence, he is a real threat and my favourite player on the team.

    I feel his slightly effeminate name gives him an added air of menace.