Rules Blood Bowl 2020 Official Team Tiers

At least on BB3 ccl there will probably be a set match limit/season so you would have to redraft every x number of games.

The amount of gold that has been on the leaks is a million gold +20k for every game played and +20k/+10k for win/draw. Rerolls/apos can be retained at team creation value.

If we assume someone wins all games in a 15 game season he would have 1.6 million to pay for redraft.

Every player will have his cost increase by 20k for every season played and for skills of course. So the DE lineman from above would cost 150k to redraft first time and 170k for second time.

So after first season a DE team with 900k base player value gets ten skill ups on 6 players with average of 20k value would cost ,not skilled ones being linemen, 280k for new linemen 620k+120k+200k for retained players +skills+new season cost and 150k for two rerolls and an apo.
Thats 1.37 million after first season. At same skill up rate the team would cost 1.69 million next season.
Given that with a 15 match season that 1.6 million is the max you can ever have for redraft you will have to make some choices after second season at the latest.

I think this will mean that after a season or two you have teams with changing "star players" as old ones are cycled out to make room for newer cheaper ones.
And most linemen may have to do with random skills to lower costs and increase rate of skill ups on players you are unlikely to retain anyway or if they get spp late in season and you just want use it before its too late.

Season length will of course alter the general TV of the teams but more skills still mean more cost.

 

Exactly!!! Its amazing to me how many people gloss over this fundamental change when evaluating rosters and hypothetical player advancement. It a huge change that no one factors in to their analysis.

 

The redrafting rules will mean that the commissioners choice of how long a season will effect a lot of team builds. Redrafting after 9 games is a world of difference from redrafting after 20. TT leagues could do whatever they want but BB3 leagues could be restricted depending on what admin tools they have. BB3 could mean the end of a number of current league structures if we are forced to redraft at the end of every 9 game season with half the teams being either crippled or made boring by redrafting.

 

Yes. I just watched a youtube clip showing the leaked rules about seasons and you do carry over any remaining treasury.
There is however a thing about a possibility to set a cap to the redraft gold. It might be a good idea in leagues that also feature new teams since new teams have harder time getting full value out of inducements.

MVP will apparently change to be a D16 roll for 4spp.
That might get players to fill rosters but i think it will just be a random punishment for players who roll badly.
At least in online ladders with 16 players you would have inflated TV and have to play with 16 rookies against 11 veterans and we all know that would end.
Better the current system or even better remove the chance of giving it to stars or dead players. Team development is the most fun part of BB and it would be stupid to make it less fun.

 

So I've took a look at the redrafting leaks instead of just relying on some of the things I've seen online and here's some stuff I've noticed:

• Everyone starts with 1 million gold and adds the contents of their treasury (which can include winnings from the end of the league as well)
• Each team then gains 20,000 for each game they played last season (friendlies and league fixtures)
• Each team then gains an additional 20,000 for each league fixture they've won last season
• Each team then gains an additional 10,000 for each league fixture they drew last season.

So a nine game season would put you at 1,180,000 gold before calculating in losses and draws or adding in a treasury, and that's assuming you didn't play any friendlies

At the high end a 20 game season would put you at 1,400,000 before adding any additional winnings or treasury money.

As for the 1.3 Million cap? It's mentioned as completely optional and up to the Commissionar as a way to level the playing field so to speak, so no team goes in with any major advantage over the others.

Honestly the more I read into it the more I feel it's to keep the game in the mid-TV range where most teams are most balanced against each other without letting the teams get so out of control that new players struggle and then give up after joining.

 

Which makes sense if you want to build a community and not have newbies terrorized by veterans.

 

Honestly I would play in a 1300 redrafting TV cap league, though I guess if that is a cap commissionars could set any cap they want for redrafting if people think that is a little low and still don't want it getting too crazy.

 

All that is fine and there are currently leagues that do that sort of thing I’m not opposed to more options. But forcing leagues to have to do it seems daft. Maybe the redrafting works better now but the only time I tried redrafting a team it basically destroyed it. I was forced to choose between building for playoffs or saving for next season that isn’t a fun decision to make.

 

Redrafting is largely designed to reset teams so they don't get out of control. It's not hard for a team that's played a few seasons to crush newer teams just by having so many skills on their players, not to mention built up staff and re-rolls as well.

I get that it feels like it "destroys" the team, but that's kind of the point. It lets you keep a couple favorite players while resetting the team so you get a small advantage for having played the last season, but not an overwhelming one.

 

One interesting idea that was discussed in some leak clip was the possibility of moving online teams to different leagues/ladders by going through that leagues redraft process with what ever cap is set there.

This would mean that we could have teams with real history instead of always making new teams.

 

But there are teams that are slow building teams. Constantly rebuilding them isn’t fun. I had to choose between going down to 4 Ogres or dropping to 11 players and 2 rerolls. That’s not a fun decision.

If you want a competition that allows rookie teams to play against teams who have played 50+ games then redrafting is a good idea and the problems associated with it can be worked round. however if you have leagues where rookie teams only have to play against other rookie teams or inexperienced teams before working their way up to the nasty teams then that structure is going to take a big hit if they have to redraft with no real benefit.

 

I don't get this claim of "no benefit". I mean a team that starts with an extra 300k (talking about the 1.3 million cap as an example) is going to be more developed, even if it only takes rookies.

 

For say big crunch or similar leages, I could see redrafting caps of different values depending on tier being a good way to make people not feel as disadvantaged when playing more expirenced teams in any div, makes fighting to promote more incentived as well as you can keep a bigger squad as long as you get to and stay in higher tiers.

 

I wasn’t referring to benefit to the team it’s benefit to the league. The point of redrafting is to avoid regular massive differences in TV. If the league does that already through depth of tiers then what is the benefit of redrafting?

 

If the admin tools are there that’s a possibility but redrafting caps aren’t in the leaked rules and do we seriously think Cyanide are going to proactively add extra admin tools in?