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Skaven Good Skaven players

Discussion in 'General Blood Bowl News and Discussion' started by TravelScrabble, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. Juriel

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    With Wrestle, that Block/Tackler who blitzed your Gutter Runner just got taken down when they rolled bothdown/skull, whereas with Block on the Gutter, they would've stood there, marking them with Tackle, still exerting tacklezones. This can make the difference between dodging into the clear with ease, and having to stand there and eat another Tackle block the next turn.

    With Wrestle, getting that bothdown/push against that blodge/sidestep elf marking your ball-carrier is still a win. You got rid of them, rather than having to start AG3 dodging.

    Block is easier, but Wrestle is worth more the more skills everyone has. Sometimes it bites you in the ass, but just as often it saves the play.

    No, they think you wasted it by picking Dauntless against them on so many guys. Same thing bashies think when they see all that Tackle. Either way, by spamming Dauntless+Tackle, you're acting at multiple skills lower in effectiveness in almost every match-up (rather than accepting specialization and then applying those specialists to the spots that matter).

    But you cannot mitigate it. If you have Dauntless, they will mark you with a ST3 player (or just overpower you with Guard anyway). If you have Tackle, they won't put a Dodger in contact with them. 1d blocks are not a good plan to start with, and there's so many ways for the opponent to turn those into 2d-against that it will benefit them more than you, over time.

    It gets a bit more inconvenient for them, but you're still a ST3 team, not orcs. If you keep marking elves, they don't need to dodge everyone back, when they can just punch you back.

    You'd have better odds of putting some fear into elves with a Tackle+POMB Killer Stormvermin, and giving those Linerats Dirty Player instead of Tackle. And those skill picks would work just as well against other teams, too.

    I see the EASE of your plan. It makes your coaching job easier, not better.
     
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  2. Nikolai II

    Nikolai II Super Moderator Moderator

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    You can buy Chaos Edition for Steam for €10 thanks to your original version key. So don't pay more than that. (It was cheaper than that, briefly, on a recent sale, but the next one might be a while)
     
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    So I managed to track down Haree and Robbo using this link for reference http://bbm.islanube.com/teams.php As a point of interest that link provides the ELO's of Orca Cola coaches and all of the coaches in the OP are included.

    Haree played in Orca Cola S13 Div 2d and Robbo back in season 6. I haven't grabbed Robbo's replays yet because I've had a lot of trouble with older replays crashing or getting stuck (is that normal) but I've got Haree's.
     
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    958 Chemical Addiction crimsonsun Khemri 1429 0 3 5 8 16
    388 The Corpse Makers crimsonsun Undead 1519 14 2 11 27 15

    I had been avoiding looking at what my utter failure of a season did to my elo ranking so thanks for that lol.
     
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    Sorry Crimson, I did hesitate before posting the link but in the end I thought it was useful. I wouldn't consider it An accurate reflection of skill though.
     
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    Lol I wouldnt worry I dont consider myself a high quality coach anyway. I am great with the theory but am both absent minded, and Kill crazy. It is rare that I am actually concerned about winning, I gain enjoyment from team development more than match results with only the amount of CARNAGE caused topping that.

    I am actually proud, I was able to finish 11th out of ten teams in my division now that is an achievements, while my Undead gained double promotion or promotion each season, it was just a bit of a shock how much a series of bad luck can change your mindset and then lead to a increasing number of blunders on my part born out of frustration. We return this season, to attempt repairs upon my ranking, and more importantly VENGEANCE upon those who inflicted those defeats upon me, I shall reap my bounty of scalps and then some. I hold OCC records for Killing players which I intend to smash as I bury those of dared defy me...
     
  7. Nikolai II

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    It is a nifty link, since the presentation is easier on the eyes than the OCC java version.