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Know Your Enemy

Discussion in 'Site News, Bug Reports and Questions' started by Coach, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. Coach

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    Man this is the guide I need, Dwarves and Lizards always get me.
     
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    Great Stuff !
     
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    Really enjoyed that. Is there a "How to beat Danton" in the works?
     
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    Make him play with an Ogre team! :p
     
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    Yes please... Lizards are tough.

    Their bruisers can match you speed for speed and outbash you too.
     
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    This is definitely an excellent idea. I could sure use one against orcs and chaos since they are so prevalent. Also, could someone recommend where I might find a good defensive setup against Khorne Daemons? ...or have one themselves? thx
     
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    I cannot believe someone else has not asked this but my Khemri really struggle against vampires tv 1700+ if you could give a man a bone so to speak. Thanks Crimsonsun
     
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    Hit them.

    Hope that helps. :pow:
     
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    Excellent idea coach... I definitely play differently against different opposition
     
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    It's what works for my undead at least. Hit everything and hope they leave the pitch. Loss of either vampires or thralls will make the vampire team weaker.
     
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    I think you should also try to out score them. Scoring more often leads to victory.
     
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    Thanx Coach, Dreamy and Rama that was very useful! Ask a reasonable question and get a sarcy comments... what can u do...

    Crimsonsun
     
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    Hit them? :pow::p
     
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    The alternative tactic is give the coach so much abuse for coaching dwarfs he conceeds
     
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    Tongue in cheek it may have been, but hitting (the Thralls at least) is usually the most practical advice to all parties to give the Vampires issues with Blood Lust.

    Otherwise I'd probably note that cage formations are weaker as Hypnotic gaze can easily leave you with no protection, so screening with multiple players and tackle zones is probably the way to go.

    As Khemri Vampire ST4 won't bother you as much, but the lack of Tackle (being a double for a Tomb Guardian) will be an issue unless you have it on your Blitz-Ras.

    I'd also note that since Thralls are AV7 and Vampires only AV8 it is a good chance to get your fouling boots on - once a Vampire is down you don't have to worry about the Block/Dodge/Sidestep he will inevitably have.

    Nothing too specific there really I suppose.

    - Attack Thralls
    - Multiple screening
    - Fouling any downed Vampire
    - Beware Block/Dodge/Sidestep when positioning/blocking.
    - Make them burn re-rolls
     
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    Thanks Gallows yours answer is appreciated, and is what I already do, I think its just something I will have to accept its not an easy match up for Khemri, also as a rule I dont agree with any advice that stats inj x player for the win, dice are WAY too fickle in my opinion to ever count on player removal thus its something you should aspire to but if that fails then what?? I have spoken on this subject elsewhere so I wont go into it again, I guess I just hate Vampires lol.

    Ps - If blitz-ras dont have tackle at that TV they are screwed...

    Crimsonsun
     
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    I'll expand a little, I didn't want to write a full article in a post reply only to repeat myself later!

    Vampires are perhaps the ultimate cage breaking team, especially when they are skilled up so it is going to be tough. Khemri are generally a really one dimensional team, hitting hard and gang fouling is pretty much their go to tactic against most teams.

    If they get the choice from the coin toss I would certainly elect to kick and try and hurt as much as their team without also having to worry about keeping the ball safe.