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Skill allocation advice II

Discussion in 'League and Team Development Tactics' started by Nikolai II, Aug 8, 2013.

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  1. Mikko

    Mikko Active Member

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    Does juggernaut cancel wrestle if i dont use it to turn BD to PUSH?
     
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    Yes. You're going to want to practise using it in an exhibition match against yourself though.
     
  3. Nikolai II

    Nikolai II Super Moderator Moderator

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    The practice is needed because you first have to turn on juggernaut in the popup window with all skills on it - and then you get a yes/no question about "Do you want to use juggernaut" and then you need to say "no". That way juggernaut is active, but doesn't turn :bothdown: to :pushback:.
     
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    thanks for the info guys :)
     
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    It hasn't come up very often but when it has it's been good.
     
  6. MC Tic Tac

    MC Tic Tac New Member

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    Today in my club league both my wood elf throwers earned their second skills (both rolled a normal skill).

    One is AG5 and the other is Leader.

    I know I want a safety, and one as a dedicated passer so which one should be which.

    AG5 with accurate would be a beast, but at the same time AG5 with surehands/dodge would be great for loose balls.

    Decisions, decisions!

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    AG5 takes wrestle or leap and Leader takes accurate. AG5 is meant for attempting crazy BS plays. If he lives long enough I'd go wrestle leap dodge.
     
  8. Nikolai II

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    Ag5 takes dodge. It is great for reaching any ball on the ground, and once you get it up you dodge out and pass for the score.

    Later block, to protect some against the inevitable blitzes, as well as any fallout from failed pickups.Then you get options .. sure hands, safe throw, nerves of steel and accurate are all valid picks depending on how you find yourself using her.
     
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    I have a pro elf AG5 dodge/block defensive thrower like Niko is suggesting. The guy has turned many matches around by doing suicidal plunges to the loose ball and passing the ball to safety. With that build he can be used as a blitzer as well, if the situation is dire...
     
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    That I do like (It's how I use my AG 5 Warrior in my chaos team).

    Suppose Accurate on the Leader makes him AG5 for passing, so I'm not missing out in that regard.
     
  11. tys123

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    The one problem with these suggestions is that the guy with leader needs to play on defense so doesn't want accurate , strong arm and safe throw.

    I would take accurate on the AG5 an only play him on offence.
    The Leader then gets dodge and become the safety.

    Safe throw is also better on AG5 than AG4

    If the AG5 becomes the safety then you need to sack the other thrower and replace him as your main passer doesn't want to play on defence so doesn't want leader.
     
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    I can see your points TYS. Especially w only 1rr that leader roll is often needed on D.

    But then again, saving that leader for 1TTD after a cruelling 8 turn drive could turn matches around.

    As the team developes and gets more rrs, that AG5 scrambler could be worth his weight in gold... No-one says that 2 throwers couldn't be employed during your defensive drives, especially before the team gets some more rrs. The roster is pretty slim, so the leader could be there anyways...
     
  13. Nikolai II

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    My wood elf teams usually play both throwers all the time. Woodies usually sideline a catcher on defence or a LOSbait on offence. Pretty soon into the game the bench is usually missing anyway..
     
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    Does setting it on ask in the options do the the trick when you pick no when it asks about turning :bothdown: to :pushback:
     
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    Nikolai II Super Moderator Moderator

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    It will always ask, for all what I know. Much like stab is an always ask thing, regardless of setting.

    Still - "skill screen - click on Juggernaut to get the green x active"
    "popup question - yes to push, no to stand still (and cancel wrestle)"
     
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    5+5 on goblin pogoer.

    sure hands, block, or ma?
     
  17. Street

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    Id say Sure hands or + MA, both fairly useful for the Pogo, Sure hands is slightly more useful in my opinion.
     
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    I have a relatively simple question: I'm playing a Chaos Dwarf team, and I just rolled doubles on my Hobgoblin level up; I'm thinking I should just take Dodge, and keep it simple, but I'm looking to see if there's anything I'm missing. My Bull Centaur is my main Ball Carrier, so keep in mind, the Hobbo will probably only be a secondary ball carrier, or, more likely just cheap fodder.

    The rest of my team is 6 Blockers (3 with Guard, 1 with Claw), 3 other Hobbos (none with skills), a Bull Centaur with Block, Break Tackle, and in one more TD, Sure Hands, and a Minotaur with no skills yet. I've got 4 Rerolls and an Apothecary for good measure.

    So, yeah. I think Dodge is the obvious choice, but I want to make sure that I'm not missing anything.
     
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    I'd take dodge, then aim for block and sure hands and make him an aux ball carrier.

    And buy another bull centaur :)
     
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    Alright, Ended up Taking Dodge. And I know I should get another Bull Centaur, but I'm putting it off, since I don't want to inflate my team value too quickly. Probably a mistake, but since I've been doing so well, both with injuring and scoring, I don't want to add another 130 to my TV, when I'm already giving my opponent inducement money, and I don't want to give them too much.
     
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