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Tactics Testing Stats 2: more fun ! Block or Dodge ?

Discussion in 'General Blood Bowl News and Discussion' started by Lebe666, Jan 30, 2012.

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Choose 3 answers you think have better chance

  1. 1a) 4 blocks that fail only on :skull:

    35.7%
  2. 1b) or Dodge 3+ / Dodge 2+ (dodge skill)

    67.9%
  3. 2a) Blitz Blockless Beast w/ -2 die fails on :skull: and has Re Roll

    46.4%
  4. 2b) Dodge 3+ / Dodge 2+ / Dodge 2+ (has RR and dodge skill)

    46.4%
  5. 3a) Pickup 4+ / Dodge 2+ (dodge skill & RR)

    46.4%
  6. 3b) 1 die Blitz (fail = :skull:) / pickup 3+ / dodge 2+ (dodge skill & RR)

    50.0%
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  1. Lebe666

    Lebe666 Well-Known Member

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    More Samba Calculator Scenarios ! Block or Dodge ?

    Scenario 1: Several regular halflings block the way of your dodging ball carrier to the End Zone. Luckily you have several players with block skill among them. All you need is 4 knockdowns (2 die) or pushes to open the way (fails only on :skull:)... or you can do 2 dodges by the side of one of them to score. No RRs left.

    1a) 4 blocks that fail only on :skull:
    1b) or; Dodge 3+ / Dodge 2+ (dodge skill)


    Scenario 2: Last turn. You still have a RR and your Blodge Elf's path is hindered by a Nurgle Beast with no Block on his way to a TD; or he can dodge 3 times around a few rotters including only 1 TZ dodge.

    2a) Blitz Blockless Beast with a -2 die only bad result :skull: and has Re Roll.
    2b) Dodge 3+ / Dodge 2+ / Dodge 2+ (has RR and dodge skill)


    Scenario 3: Your War Dancer w/ Agi 5 is near the EZ but the thrower failed his pass. 3 zombies w/ no block move next to ball but don't surround it. Do you just go straight in pickup in 3 TZ and dodge out to score ? Or do you blitz w/ 1 die one of the zombies (fails only :skull:) in order to make pickup easier ? 1 RR left.

    3a) Pickup 4+ / Dodge 2+ (dodge skill & RR)
    3b) 1 die Blitz (fail = :skull:) / pickup 3+ / dodge 2+ (dodge skill & RR)

    Answers below in white:

    All blocks are better !

    1a) 4 blocks = 89.34%
    1b) 2 dodges = 83.33%

    2a) 3 Dodges = 83.59%
    2b) Blitz Beast -2 die w RR= 90.66%

    3a) 4+ pickup 2+ dodge (RR) = 72.91%
    3b) Blitz 1 die / 3+ pickup / dodge 2+ = 81% (with or without RR its better)
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2012
  2. Captain Thorrek

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    Wow! I only got the last one right... quite surprising.

    Great job on these, Lebe. They remind me of the "Choose Your Own Adventure" book series from when I was a kid... I wonder if they'd make a blood bowl version, although I can picture the endings all being, "thanks to your bad dice rolling, you curse Nuffle with your dying breath". ;)
     
  3. Lebe666

    Lebe666 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Captain ! In fact you got two right ! :)

    As for the "Chose Your Own Adventure" these don't fit Blood Bowl... too grim and dark. The adventures of a young goblin would end under the hooves of some slobbering Minotaur with too many skills ! :cool:
     
  4. illLich

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    emmm mb i don't understand something but...
    in white
    1 task:
    4 blocks = (5/6)^4=48%
    2 dodges with dodge = 2/3*(5/6+1/6*5/6)+1/3*2/3*5/6=82%
     
  5. Nikolai II

    Nikolai II Super Moderator Moderator

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    Halflings! Laughable critters that you almost always 2-dice! Ha! :D
     
  6. illLich

    illLich Member

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    oh yes, halflings
    my mistake :)
     
  7. Captain Thorrek

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    I love halflings in Blood Bowl, they're the only race to have their nutritional information sewn into their jerseys. Makes it much easier for us coaches with Big Guys who are trying to count calories. :)
     
  8. illLich

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    btw u forget Foul Appearance on beast. But with it makes everything more interesting ._.
     
  9. Barmution

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    Yeah, that surely changes things. I forgot about that, myself... d'oh!
     
  10. Netsmurf

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    The reason I got Q2 wrong:powdodge:
     
  11. illLich

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    nope :p
    even with it the answer is the same
     
  12. Lebe666

    Lebe666 Well-Known Member

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    Considering that Mico's trolls have eaten 4 of his own Goblins... I sure hope those goblins also have nutritional info !! :D
     
  13. Lebe666

    Lebe666 Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering if the more Bashy team coaches would go for bash answers... but Netsmurf surprised me ! He would rather dodge around halflings ?! Never chose a block answer !! :confused:
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2012
  14. nufflehatesme

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    for q1 maybe should specify they are 2d blocks. these plucky halflings may have guard out of the wazoo lol
     
  15. Lebe666

    Lebe666 Well-Known Member

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    I thought I had put the 2 die... :(
     
  16. Barmution

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    Hah, you're right! I somehow forgot that the re-roll could be applied to the FA roll... you gotta be pretty desperate to try to pull that stunt, tho, as it will put you at about 30% chance to get smacked with MB on the block :p It's still darn close!
     
  17. Lebe666

    Lebe666 Well-Known Member

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    I made that question with the -2 die just to show how relatively "safe" it is to hit block-less Big guys.
     
  18. illLich

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    main problem with 1 question it need looks like
    1a) 4 blocks that fail only on :skull::skull:
    not just
    1a) 4 blocks that fail only on :skull:
     
  19. nufflehatesme

    nufflehatesme Member

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    thats what got me.

    nice work with these lebe, they are good little eye openers
     
  20. Slyspy

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    Again, playing Elves you get quite used to this kind of puzzle. But would I take the 2D against blitz in an actual game? I wouldn't have had the time to work it out and then I might bottle it anyway. But now I know for certain!