Ogre Snotlings

Scoring Ogre Snotling:

If you aren’t going to use the Ogres to carry the ball then you will need a few Snotlings capably of scoring. If they can get within running range of the end zone, then it should just be a series of 2+ dodges and go for its in order to score. Sure Feet gives you an extra reroll for the rolls that Dodge doesn’t already cover. After that you could go for Sprint for the extra range or go for Catch to make getting the ball to them easier. That would usually be if attempting a Throw Team Mate play, otherwise they will probably pick it up themselves. It can also help with getting hold of bouncing balls and the odd interception as well.

For doubles I would get Block to help try and get them upright and if you get another then Sure Hands to help with picking it up and to avoid Strip Ball. An agility increase is great for anyone handling the ball a lot and movement will help cut down on go for its or let you score from further away.

Ogre Snotling Catcher:
  • Normal: Catch, Diving Catch
  • Doubles: Block
  • Stat Increase: +AG +MV

A slight variation on the normal scoring build that becomes more viable if you get an Ogre with +AG and Strong Arm who can present a mild passing threat. Catch does the obvious and the changes to Diving Catch will make catching an accurate pass easier as well. The latter can also help grab the occasional inaccurate pass and bouncing balls.

Doubles and stat increases follow the same reasons as the previous scoring build. Having a passing threat in the team will give the opponents something extra to think about and have to try and deal with.

Ogre Snotling Fouler:
  • Normal: Sneaky Git
  • Doubles: Dirty Player

As I mentioned trading a Snotling for a more expensive player is usually a great trade off. If you want to build a specialist fouler then wait for a double on the first skill increase and take Dirty Player. Look to gang foul if you get this, though that is less important if they live long enough to get Sneaky Git after that. They probably won’t develop further than this and if they do it probably isn’t worth the extra team value. If you don’t want to sack them though then get Sure Feet for the third skill.

Ogre Snotlings Summary:

Hopefully now you can see some uses for Snotlings on your team and don’t just see them as a waste of time. In order to keep them alive as long as possible, you don’t want to leave any in base contact with opposing players at the end of your turn. If you can avoid that it will help them live as long as possible. If you have given them Diving Tackle, they can still make use of this by screening and placing them in running lanes. You don’t have to man mark to make it useful.

Some other doubles to consider as your Ogre players will tend to be taking Block / Dodge / Sure Hands, would be things like Leader, Hail Mary or Kick. If going to take these then you probably want to get it on their first skill advance. You will probably want to keep them out of harms way after getting one of these skills, which means they may not develop any more. They may also not last very long generally anyway and you might have a constant cycle of replacing them. These are useful skills to have on the team if you can get them though. A deep kick means you can perhaps throw a Snotling down to get the ball and score if the opponents fail to pick it up for example. If you get some nice skill rolls, then it isn’t inconceivable to actually develop a Snotling into a great player!

17 thoughts on “Ogre Snotlings”

  1. You should also consider taking Guard on a doubles roll for a Snotling. With Stunty, Titchy and Dodge they can go virtually anywhere. I had Guard on one of my Snotlings and it really paid off – that is of course until he got smashed to pieces…

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    • Thanks for bringing that up, I forgot to talk about Guard, I really should take more notes before writing them up!

      The reason I don’t suggest it is that you will eventually likely have six Ogres on the team who are ST5. They don’t really need the extra help from Guard, also they only have access to strength skills so getting them Guard is not only easy but may also be the best option after getting perhaps a couple of others.

      There are also lots of other very handy skills to take on Snotlings instead of Guard. Block or Wrestle will just keep them on the pitch that much longer, especially as after a few games pretty much every other team will have Block players to pick on them with. Then there is also the fact that Guard comes in handy when they are in Tackle Zones. This increases the likelihood that they are going to get hit and as such they probably won’t live that long. That being said while they are alive is can be very useful especially as you can get it where you want most the time and Side Step lets you keep it in as useful a position as possible. The caveat though is the life expectancy of a Snotling that can end up taking more hits than you ideally are looking to suffer.

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  2. I put Multiple Block on one of my Ogres and then used the Guard Snotling to get two dice on both blocks. That Ogre also has Grab so most of the time I was able to get that supporting Snotling free again. But recently that Snotling got blitzed and died. These little buggers are just to fragile to really count on them.

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  3. Isn’t during early development of the team “Leader” also an option for a <general purpose> snotling? I find an extra reroll allows for more tricky tactics.
    Thanks

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  4. Î just started playing an Ogre team. I skilled some snotlings diving tackle but the other teams just don’t bother to dodge, they just block the snotlings. So how am i supposed to use it? You seem to get good use of it.

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    • It isn’t much surprise that opponents will do that due to the low strength of Snotlings. Rather than actively marking them like you would with a normal player, you need to position the Snotlings where they are likely to want to move. As they all have Side Step and they can then only blitz one Snotling you can make a web of Diving Tackle tackle zones for them to get through.

      You can sometimes mark players though, Snotlings have Dodge which makes them a bit harder to knock over, if an opposing player doesn’t have Block or Wrestle, then you may have more success. I still don’t think it is that worthwhile as most players get three dice blocks against Snotlings and even if they do get a both down with neither of you having Block, a Snotlings breaks very easily.

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  5. I find the snotlings very important, but they don’t really need much in the way of skills. Which is fortunate because they won’t get much in the way I play.

    I play in a random match environment, it is pretty bash heavy and there seems to be a bit of Pile On/Mighty Blow/Claw. Sneaky Git was the first skill I picked up on a dual MVP snot. The second MVP completion snot got Surefoot because I find it useful to have a snot that can get a little more reach.

    I focus really heavily on getting the ball to an Ogre though, because Snotlings are too easy to get the ball away from. They tend to not get skills but they are still very important as they are for providing screens and forcing dodge rolls to burn rerolls on risky plays.

    Just always try to keep them out of tackle zones at the end of your turn. Any snotlings that are in tackle zones are likely snotlings that are going to fall down.

    Last bit of advice. Remember that they can block too. If you have someone marking the ball that your snots are marking, you can block them off of it with the assists from the other snotlings and have your Ogre come up and pick up the ball, rather than vice versa. Leaves you in a much stronger position.

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  6. Coach, what do You think of Dauntless as a double on Snotlings? If I was determined to make a blitzing Snotling (and optimistic about getting two doubles on him), would You recommend taking Wrestle or Dauntless as a first one?

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  7. I wouldn’t bother with Dauntless, it doesn’t help at all when the other team can usually just hit you back with three dice. If you also don’t have Wrestle or Block then your Snotling won’t last long on the pitch anyway which wastes the skill.

    For the extra value it adds to your Snotling, it isn’t worth the benefits that having Dauntless will give. It also isn’t a guaranteed success that it will work so you may also end up doing three dice blocks in the oppositions favour! Just moving a Diving Tackle Snotling next to the ball carrier seems like a better strategy and is less team value. Of course if you think it will be more fun to go that route then by all means give it a go.

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  8. After playing quite a lot with Ogre teams, I’d suggest taking Sure Feet as a first skill on most, if not all the Snotlings (except on doubles, of course). It helps with the teams’ main weak point, which is MV5 on all players. Diving Tackle is great (and I would definitely take it as a second skill, except for the main scoring Snotling who should get Catch/Diving Catch or Sprint), but useless if Your Snotlings can’t get to the right position to use it. Also, Snotlings are great for providing assists for the much neeeded 3-dice Ogre blocks and Sure Feet helps them get to the right place for that. Those two additional squares of movement mean 40% more ground covered in one turn.

    It also helps a lot with scoring, both when caging with last-minute Snotling dash to the endzone and TTM, which offers very limited control of where Your Snotling will land.

    What I’m trying to say is that every Ogre coach will find him/herself doing a lot of GFIs and wasting re-rolls on them – and You need those re-rolls for the unreliable Ogre blocking! What if You have already used the re-roll that turn? That means no more GFIs (unless You feel adventurous, that is). Sure Feet helps conserve the re-rolls, while making Your team much more mobile. Just use the GFIs carefully, one square at a time, and only when they’re really needed.

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    • Some sound advice, thank you for your input. With the lack of easy access to general skills I think your strategy of having skills to combat reroll use makes a lot of sense.

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  9. I made a “reciever/runner” snotling, and a passing one. I got doubles on my first two snotling level-ups, and built them from there.
    The level 3 “passer” had pass, +1 agility, and sure feet; the sure feet helped him get to the ball from the kick-off, and proved very useful to put in a last minute roadblock on a few occasions. I gave the “runner/reciever” sprint, catch, nerves of steel and diving catch. This plan B worked best against bashier opposition, particularly dwarves, as I could drift my reciever in deep, and slip the ball out of my ogre cage to the passer if things got hairy. One thing to say if one was to try to emulate rikkitikki or bert would be to make extra effort to keep them out of harm. All in all, a good plan B, and a pair of builds I thought I’d mention.

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  10. I think snots are best left undeveloped. Never ever take attribute bonuses- the cost more than the snotling. Here are the three exceptions to that rule.
    1. One any double roll, take Leader. Ogre rerolls are expensive. If you somehow end up with 6 rerolls, you wont regret it. Ogres are about the only team besides Vampires that could feasibly use 6.
    2. Give Sneaky Git to the first snot (that doesnt roll a double). If you ABSOLUTELY MUST keep all your level 2 snotlings, give them this. Believe me, there is nothing more satisfying than taking out a clawed chaos warrior with a sneaky git snotling.
    3. If you roll a double on your Sneaky Git, give it Dirty Player. Devastating 70k fouler, but unlikely to last more than two matches.
    Ogre teams are barely competetive. Skilled up snots (or worse snots with attribute bonuses) raise you TV to uncompetetive levels. For this reason, don’t make your snotlings scorers- you want those SPP going to the ogres.

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  11. An ammendment- the other skill that has awesome potential (but I haven’t used it with Ogres myself) is Hail Mary Pass. Do not use this against high agility teams- they will blitz the Hailer before you are prepared to throw. The play I would suggest is simple- driving your ogres up one side of the pitch, until you have a nice cage in the corner, four squares out from the enemy Endzone. Tie up opponents with snots. Send the hail mary pass into the ogre cage, knowing full well the bounce will be 3 squares. At very worst it ends up beside an ogre, while at best an ogre catches it on the bounce.
    I have tried this play with Dwarves and it works very well.

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  12. I like a dauntless and a guard snot on defense. nasty combo. I will blitz a dauntless into a cage though. I have went 3 red into a cage for a triple pow before. That is the fun of ogres, doing the things you aren’t supposed to do.

    Leader can be good but you have to keep track of him. after you use the roll in the second half, foul with him every chance you get.

    Diving Tackle is the only great skill. two DT next to eachother marking the ball is always good.

    Sneaky Git. You doubled your TV and if the foul works, he is gone anyhow.

    Take a full roster and foul foul foul.

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  13. How about kick for a doubles on a snotling. With all your mobile break tackle ogres on the front line a short kick can leave the ball within easy reach.

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